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Jun 1, 2009 21:07:40 GMT -5
Post by Ezio on Jun 1, 2009 21:07:40 GMT -5
u do no tht some football player won a very high scholarly award?
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Jun 2, 2009 17:19:40 GMT -5
Post by Scarecrow on Jun 2, 2009 17:19:40 GMT -5
I'm not saying all sports players are idiots, only that it furthers the belief that you don't have to have intelligence to be successful, and that pure athleticism is more important than intellect(which athletes paychecks more than prove)
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Jun 2, 2009 19:57:04 GMT -5
Post by Ezio on Jun 2, 2009 19:57:04 GMT -5
i just thought of something. every1 is intelligent. sport players r intelligent about the game they play, so they r smart, other ppl who dont play sports r intelligent 2, but in other things like computers. of course a person can b intelligent on both of these things.
Take tht
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Jun 2, 2009 21:40:13 GMT -5
Post by Scarecrow on Jun 2, 2009 21:40:13 GMT -5
Look, I threw the ball and the other guy caught it. Ain't I smart?
Sports don't take intelligence. They take skill, I'll give them that, but you don't have to be smart to play sports, and would you please stop with the abbreviated typing? It invalidates your attempts at speaking about intelligence.
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Jun 2, 2009 22:40:26 GMT -5
Post by Ezio on Jun 2, 2009 22:40:26 GMT -5
2 ur post- im 2 lazy 2 type not abbreviated. just cause im lazy doesnt mean i aint smart. just lazy (which is y i think grades dont mean anything)
playing catch isnt really a sport.
yea u do have 2 b smart.
have u ever heard ppl say tht "so and so is a smart (insert sport here) player? they no when 2...and when 2...
also dont talk 2 me bout invalidating my attempts bout speaking intel. u used the word aint, like me which isnt a word
also u said sports take skill. well practically everything in the world takes skill.
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Jun 3, 2009 16:14:57 GMT -5
Post by Scarecrow on Jun 3, 2009 16:14:57 GMT -5
I used the word "ain't" as a mockery of the intelligence required to play sports.
Also, I'm curious as to why you're contesting the one positive thing I've said about sports on here.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't a majority of sports players simply have to follow the coach or captain's orders to get the job done? It doesn't take brains to follow orders.
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Jun 3, 2009 16:45:37 GMT -5
Post by Ezio on Jun 3, 2009 16:45:37 GMT -5
u need to be smart to kknow which base to throw to when two runners are on and 1 out. in baseball
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Jun 7, 2009 20:03:31 GMT -5
Post by Dragon Yoshi on Jun 7, 2009 20:03:31 GMT -5
That's just common sence. If the person is over half way to the other base you throw it there. And if i'm wrong I don't care. Sports take skill but not intlegence so much. you can take a sport intelegently using different skills you could play better for example taking into acccunt wind might help you throw you the football. My only problem with school sports is It has a very low chance of ever turning into a carrer and people go overboard with them. And I hate professional sports because they are over paid. They are getting paid millions of dollars to play a game when a lot of people who go to collage don't get paied half that much for example teachers!
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Jun 7, 2009 20:53:30 GMT -5
Post by Ezio on Jun 7, 2009 20:53:30 GMT -5
ok if u think it is just common sense then answer this question.
u are on 1st base. the hitter hits a ground ball to left field. u are rounding 2nd base. do u go back to 2nd or go to 3rd?
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Jun 8, 2009 19:51:16 GMT -5
Post by Dragon Yoshi on Jun 8, 2009 19:51:16 GMT -5
Depends on where the ball is. If the ball is far and you feal you have a strong enough at running go for it but if you're like me you stop because you probabally wont make it.
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Jun 8, 2009 21:20:39 GMT -5
Post by Ezio on Jun 8, 2009 21:20:39 GMT -5
correct, but not really. If you u new the game then u would no tht it depends where the fielder is, how good the fielders arm is, and where the 3rd baseman is.
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Jun 9, 2009 15:17:49 GMT -5
Post by Dragon Yoshi on Jun 9, 2009 15:17:49 GMT -5
ok still common sence to thoes who have plaied the game.
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Jun 9, 2009 16:07:43 GMT -5
Post by Scarecrow on Jun 9, 2009 16:07:43 GMT -5
Here's a hint: Sports are called "games" for a reason. They're games, they're designed for having fun(while some were actually designed as training for combat, like Lacrosse) notice how other paying careers are referred to as "work"? because you have to work for your money, not PLAY a GAME
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Jun 9, 2009 20:51:17 GMT -5
Post by Ezio on Jun 9, 2009 20:51:17 GMT -5
ok still common sence to thoes who have plaied the game. exactly. doctors and other stuff u think is important, well 4 them it is just common sense 2
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Jun 9, 2009 21:38:46 GMT -5
Post by Dragon Yoshi on Jun 9, 2009 21:38:46 GMT -5
Except they had to go to collage for a trade. Athletes don't have to they go to collage to play a game wtf? My big thing is that they are overpaied.
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Jun 16, 2009 15:11:01 GMT -5
Post by Underrated on Jun 16, 2009 15:11:01 GMT -5
Let's put 'intelligence' into baseball context.
You are a pitcher for the Brewers (a random team).
There is a runner on 2nd and 3rd base. There is 1 out already. Say... Albert Pujols is up. He has hit 40 home runs already this year. A home run here would give the Cardinals the win and clinch a playoff spot for them, eliminating your team.
You need intelligence to know which pitch to throw to him. For instance you need to know what kind of pitches he likes to hit and what kind of pitches he can't hit against. Also you need to know which ball location he likes to hit from and which he is 'cold' from.
Say Albert likes hitting fastballs up high and inside. If you were smart, you would know NOT to throw a fastball up high and in. With your intelligence, you would simply throw, say a curveball, down and out. This would greatly reduce Albert's chance of putting up runs on the board. All pitchers in the MLB and MiLB need to have this kind of intelligence to thrive, or else, they won't be rewarded.
Or, knowing that 1st base is open, you could just intentionally walk him, and pitch to the next batter, who probably isn't as good of a hitter as Albert is.
There are also a lot of other aspects in the game that require intelligence and smarts in order to thrive, just like a GM. Remember the Red Sox? Well they didn't win a WS in like 86 years. People were getting sick of them losing in the playoffs (except me of course). So in 2004 Epstein and his workers used their brains to trade and sign/release players who they thought would give them a good chance of winning the WS. Guess what? They won it the following year, and again in 2007.
So please, please, don't EVER say that sports don't require players/athletes to be smart.
And Yoshi, I know athletes are overpaid. But they have an enormous amount of talent, and sports are basically businesses trying to make some money. Like Pepsi and Coke. They're big, corporations that are earning a lot of money selling their products. Well in the MLB, the Yankees and Red Sox are like big teams/brands who are trying to make money and thrive each year. It's all about business... and having fun too!
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Jun 16, 2009 15:25:36 GMT -5
Post by Ezio on Jun 16, 2009 15:25:36 GMT -5
You guys got PWNed
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Jun 17, 2009 0:14:43 GMT -5
Post by Scarecrow on Jun 17, 2009 0:14:43 GMT -5
If you're not going to attempt to contribute to the conversation, don't bother posting. Once again, sports are NOT important, and they don't require intelligence. I've seen complete idiots who are godlike at baseball, it's more based on instinct than intelligence. The fact that our instincts tell us to better play a game is also upsetting. So they can play a game. Let's see if they can make it through college. No, let's see if they can EXCEL in college. I stand by my position that intelligence is only required in the people leading the team. The players themselves need to be able to follow directions. Baseball is a sport that relies heavily on the ability to adapt, but adaptability doesn't denote intelligence.
Sports are NOT the be-all and end-all of the universe. Stop pretending that playing sports makes a difference on the world, because it doesn't. At it's very best, it increases morale, while simultaneously decreasing it. If a soldier's team wins, they may be able to operate better based on the heightened emotions of the result of the game, while the opposite is true of fans of the losing team.
I do applaud your ability to provide an intellectual opinion on the subject, fastdude, instead of quick little ramblings that make no sense whatsoever. I still stand by my opinion that sports take skill, not intelligence. You need to know how to PLAY the GAME, but what could those skills possibly help you with outside of the sport? So you know who to throw a ball to, or how to throw a ball, but where could that help you in a real situation? Also, it's scientific fact that steroids decrease brain activity, yet some of the "best" atheletes are the ones who are under the influence of these drugs. How can you explain their intelligence, when they play better under drugs that make them less intelligent?
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Jun 17, 2009 7:41:22 GMT -5
Post by Ezio on Jun 17, 2009 7:41:22 GMT -5
college. if u go there u have skill.
besides wht is the definition of intelligence anyway?
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Jun 17, 2009 7:48:51 GMT -5
Post by Underrated on Jun 17, 2009 7:48:51 GMT -5
To athletes, sports is indeed a HUGE part of their lives. It may not seem important to a lot of other people, but it IS important for a lot of people too. Athletes need the money to support their families. Without money they would go broke. So sports are important for a lot of athletes.
And in sports, how are you going to know your way around? You can't just rely on common sense to be successful. For instance, if you didn't have the intelligence to respond to an injury or take care of an injury, then your body is in risk and you might be done for the rest of your life. Managing injuries are a big part of sports, and I definitely believe you need a lot of intelligence for that.
Also the average IQ for NFL players is 98. That is nearly the average IQ for most people. So that means they're not dumb, and they at least have intelligence. Also if you know Plaxico Burress and what happened to him last year, well then you'll know why he needed intelligence. He SHOT himself with a GUN that was illegal to have. This cost him a lot of money, some possible jail time, and his team (Giants released him). This was all because he wasn't THINKING. Even athletes like him need to THINK. That may not be sports-related, but still, athletes need to THINK in order to excel in sports.
I firmly believe sports require BOTH intelligence AND skill. But I just don't get why most of you guys think that skill is more important in sports. To me, it is just half as important.
And oh, to answer your question, inFamous, I decided to go on dictionary.com and took out the FIRST definition of intelligence that I found. Here it says, "capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings, etc."
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